[eecsninja]

I agree about the lack of ethics, but that's something to be screened by future employers or school admissions.

I don't disagree with schools having penalties for cheating. But on the moral severity scale, it's really an infraction rather than a felony. Would you call jaywalkers bad people?

If you want to see why I have such a disdain for academia, here's my story: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16726402

[your-nanny]

I wouldn't hire you. Attitudes matter. Trust matters. No way would I hire you, given the views you express.

[eecsninja]

Nice name. I probably wouldn't want to work for you anyway.

[figgis]

You cheating to acquire a degree that says you have learned x information devalues that degree for everyone else that has it. That is nothing like crossing the street where you aren't supposed too.

[darkkindness]

> "2. We only think it is a moral issue because it's been drilled into us since we were kids, and that we think it is not fair to those who don't cheat and devalues the value of their degree."

Perhaps GP's point was that since degrees don't actually correlate with 'you have learned x information', degrees don't inherently have value in the first place?

[always_good]

Nonsense. Degrees show that you ran the gauntlet. I don't think confer anything more. Cheating cheapens that.

I think they are projecting their own disillusionment after they themself realized the degree doesn't represent knowledge or whatever personal meaning they had attached to it.

[JumpCrisscross]

> that's something to be screened by future employers or school admissions

Like, by flagging cheaters and those who facilitate them. You're complaining about the disease as well as the cure.