[threeseed]

> I've no data but my nerd friends are doing this a lot, and sometimes what you see in the nerd-sphere in a few years happens in the normal market

"Nerds" are the group most adept at switching back and forth so your anecdote really isn't useful in the slightest. And the numbers really don't show a systemic move back to Android.

Also this group may be trend-setters because it does happen sometimes. But far more often it doesn't. Otherwise we would've seen everyone cancel Facebook, use Bitcoin for all payments and vote for Bernie Sanders.

> They are struggling at competing in the space of the biggest ecosystems around phones. Cloud, computational photography, assistant.

iMessages is a killer platform that only exists on iOS. iCloud simply just works for most people storing photos and backing up their devices. Portrait Mode has been a key marketing differentiator in the photography space. And whilst Siri isn't as good as Alexa/Google Assistant in some areas it is better in others.

[emdowling]

Just a slight point: iMessage is only relevant in Australia and US. In Europe, its WhatsApp, in China, WeChat, in Japan, LINE, etc. iMessage is not a competitive advantage in the markets where Apple can extract greatest growth going forward.

[antirez]

It's incredible this comment was downvoted. Is verifiable truth.

[adpirz]

iMessage is good...for now. I don't know about others, but more and more I notice little quirks and bugs, like messages being out of order, and syncing with macOS can be iffy. I really hope they work to improve it in the next year or two, because it's starting to wear on me a bit.