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by AceJohnny2 2973 days ago
Wow, talk about curveballs. That's a terrifying prospect, and I wish Simone the best for her surgery. I'm glad to hear it's not malignant, and I hope that holds.

I've seen cancer show up unexpectedly among two friends. One discovered she had leukemia, and underwent chemo and a bone marrow transplant. She died from a lung infection because of her weakened immune system after the transplant, not even a year after the initial diagnosis. She had just turned 27.

Another friend discovered they had an extremely rare form of mesothelioma, the asbestos-caused lung cancer, except theirs isn't due to asbestos and isn't in the lung. There are less than 300 documented cases, rare enough that there are no experts, and they're a case study. They're currently living with the uncertainty in their mid-30s.

Both friends were in great physical health (the former made the regional swim team, the latter climbs the highest peaks in North America for fun) until the diagnostic.

Seeing this has reinforced my nihilism (there is no meaning to life but the one you apply to it), and gave me greater understanding that our multicellular bodies are a peace treaty among cells that is likely to break down at any moment.

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I've had the same experience. Multiple friends dying young of cancer, others to war and it shook my core beliefs about who and what is important. In almost every case, each of them were "the best of us" and were top performers destined for greatness.

A philosophical nitpick too, you're likely describing absurdism, not nihilism. Nihilism doesn't accept the self-application of meaning/purpose. Whereas other forms of existentialism do accept that self application of purpose is valid, with absurdism being the only one which offers that any self assigned purpose is equally valid to others.

I only say this because both handle the question of suicide differently. I'm on the fence between being a nihilist and an absurdist weekly.

> A philosophical nitpick too, you're likely describing absurdism, not nihilism.

You're right, thanks for the clarification! I got confused between existentialism and nihilism, I admit I don't know the differences beyond what's infiltrated pop consciousness. You sent me on a wikibrowsing quest ;)

While you're going down that rabbit hole, check out Stoicism. The Enchiridion is pretty short and sweet.
Excellent! Casual philosophy is a pastime of mine so I think you'll find study of existentialism engaging.
A close friend of mine, when we were 21, had heart attack and passed away. No family history of heart attacks, he was in excellent shape (cycling was his life) and just randomly out of the blue.

I do try to stay fit and eat healthy but there are times that I realize that I have no control over randomness or my genes. That is humbling and scary at the same time.

>A close friend of mine, when we were 21, had heart attack and passed away. No family history of heart attacks, he was in excellent shape (cycling was his life) and just randomly out of the blue.

Not sure if this is the case here, but fatal heart attacks in healthy physically active young adults are often the result of Hypertrophic cardiomyopathy.

This is a fairly common (~ 1 in 500) inheritable condition that can be easily diagnosed by ultrasound. Everybody do yourself a favour and get at least a routine checkup in every few years. It prevents deaths.

That is kind of the reality I've living with myself. My father died of Leukemia when I was young. After college, one of my friends died of brain cancer. Right now my wife and I are dealing with my MILs breast cancer treatment. Meanwhile I found out I had kidney disease due to an auto immune condition a few years back and now I'm on dialysis. Just the other day my sister was talking about dealing with her MILs Alzheimer's disease. Sometimes its just hard to have an optimistic view on live when it all can go tumbling down in a moments notice.
Anecdotal, but a relative also had a benign growth in the brain cavity. It was removed, no problems. Simone's being behind her eye sounds a little more technical though.
I wonder if the mesothelioma could possibly be from repeated exposure to stone particulates that came off during rock climbing and were inhaled. I don't know much about climbing or cancer, but that was my immediate thought.