[mickronome]

It sounds like someone who knows what they want and who like to get their hands dirty in a job market where they habe that choice.

Not all developers are irresponsible, and not all ops people are impossible to work with. But both certainly exist.

[scarface74]

That's what made things more infuriating at the company I left. I came in as the lead developer knowing that if I wanted to get things done, I would have to ingratiate myself to the net ops people. I could fire off a Skype, ask for what I needed on prem (VMs and hard drive space mostly) and by the time I sent the ticket request as a formality, it was already done.

But then they decided to "go the cloud" and instead of training their internal network ops people and having them work with the vendor who was creating the AWS infrastructure, the vendor took everything over and even our internal folks couldn't get anything done without layers of approvals.

So I ended up setting up my own AWS VPC at home, doing proof of concepts just so I could learn how to talk the talk, studied for the system administrator cert (even though I was a developer) and then got so frustrated it was easier to change my environment than to try to change my environment.

So now they are spending more money on AWS than they would have in their colo because no developer wants to go through the hassle of going through the red tape of trying to get AWS services and are just throwing things on EC2 instances.

In today's world, an EC2 instance for custom developed code is almost always sub optimal when you have things like AWS Lambda for serverless functions, Fargate for serverless Docker containers and dozens of other services that allows you to use AWS to do the "undifferentiated heavy lifting".