[mindcrime]

We may get there eventually, but that's just the way things were done here when I started. Unfortunately we have one of those environments where "devops" is basically a separate department, and are treated more like sysadmins than a core part of the development team. So the culture leads to a mindset of "DevOps does the automation stuff".

[echlebek]

I've been there. It's a frustrating situation, and difficult to change.