[encoderer]

Curious, are you using their lumbar insert? I used to and always found it uncomfortable. I later learned from a Herman Miller rep that most people shouldn’t use it and the chair provides support from the large mesh contact surface. Since removing it I’ve been way more comfortable, going on 5 years now.

[NickM]

Maybe that would've helped for the Mirra, though I did tend to keep it at its minimum setting anyway, since I also found it rather uncomfortable. But the Embody and Freedom chairs have no removable lumbar support to begin with....

[ghaff]

On the other hand, I really like it. But then I seem to really prefer having good lumbar support in general in cars etc.

[jdc0589]

ditto. the lumbar insert was REALLY painful for me. super comfortable without it.