[sirclueless]

I've used PHP and I too make fun of it. It's a silly language made years ago without a lot of attention paid to normal software development practices and it shows. There is a laundry list of facepalm-worthy things the language does.

But it's just a language. Good software is made in bad languages all the time. And making fun of PHP is not the same thing as making fun of someone who is using PHP. I'm sure Rasmus Lerdorf will happily tell you PHP is full of expedient design choices that would be different in hindsight, but that doesn't make it OK to poke fun at people trying to get work done.

[robryan]

There is plenty of activity within frameworks and on internals from people who are absolutely concerned with good software development practices.

Obviously it does suffer from some design issues due to backwards compatibility but is moving in the right direction.