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by crankylinuxuser 2981 days ago
Sounds kind of like a Tesla, now that you mention a car like that. They already will call and threaten you if you own a Tesla and mess around with it under the hood.

https://www.slashgear.com/expect-an-irate-call-if-you-try-to...

How much further will they go? Will they remotely disable it? Or perhaps, they'll send it into "Service Needed" mode and cripple it?
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hvidgaard 2981 days ago
It ought to be the law that anything I can do, is fair game. If I fuckup something it shouldn't be under warranty, but only for the issues the tinkering causes. If I can connect to a port in the car I've paid for, and read something, it's not industrial espionage. That is just Tesla being lazy and trying to get security-by-obscurity, instead of a proper secure implementation.
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freerobby 2981 days ago
That article is clickbait. Tesla contacted the owner out of fear that his car had been hacked (i.e. by someone else). That the owner stop was merely a "recommendation," warranty invalidation was the only threat they made, and "industrial espionage" was the owner's characterization of Tesla's concern, not an allegation it made against the owner. Lots of people have gone on to hack their Teslas without consequence in the years that followed.

There was another episode where Jason Hughes was denied firmware updates after rooting his car. Elon responded that no punitive action was intended and that he views white hat hacking as a gift, and they seemed to resolve it pretty quickly.

It will be interesting to see how Tesla responds to these cases when FSD is available.

edit: Here's the original post: https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/successful-connectio...

> This evening I got a call from service center :crying: They told me Tesla USA engineers seen a tentative of hacking on my car... I explained it was me because I tried to connect the diagnosis port to get some useful data (speed, power, etc...). They told me it can be related to industrial espionage and advised me to stop investigation, to not void the warranty.... Don't know if they really seen something in the log, because I just sniffed the network. Or maybe they seen the port scanning with nmap ? Or maybe they just read this topic ? :eek:

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