[jacksmith21006]

Not following. There were billions to be made by Google in China and they decided giving up their user data was a bridge too far. So basically chose to not sell their user data.

Versus Apple handed over all there user data to make a buck. Plus this is actual data not a targeted ad.

Do I have this correct?

[awakeasleep]

You're missing facts that change the whole picture.

Cloud services are required to use Google services & devices. G had to choose between giving China everything or withdrawing from the market.

Cloud services are an add-on to Apple's products. The iPhone is still useful without enabling anything from iCloud. Cloud services are optional with the iPhone.

[jacksmith21006]

Cloud is not required with Google. What are you talking about?

[saagarjha]

What are you talking about? 90+% of Google's services are online. Apple has a substantial hardware business, so I don't see how you are conflating the two.

[jacksmith21006]

You can buy an Android phone and never use the cloud if you want just like an iPhone.

The two are actually very similar.

Google services do not matter if you have an Android phone or an iPhone. Suspect there is actually more consumption of Google services on the iPhone then even Android but do not have numbers handy to support.

[millstone]

Huawei selling customized AOSP with WeChat doesn't represent Google's participation in the Chinese market. Chinese Android users aren't Google users.

[urda]

... what Google products don't require the cloud? You know that pretty much all Google services are in the cloud yes?

As a third party observer, you have gone completely off the rails here.