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ability in sport = martial prowess / hunting skills / good health in general / good genes in general -- It has always been more or less universally respected.

Jazz players always had subculture specific social status, same with hip-hop pioneers, early rock musicians etc.

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Jazz players always had subculture specific social status, same with hip-hop pioneers, early rock musicians etc.

As have gamers.

[fgf]

"social status" that doesn't get you laid =//= social status that does