[lzw]

I'm an American, I used to watch the daily dhow regularly, and you are spot on.

The show pretends to be giving the news, t itbis dishonest, and it essentially tells lies about others in order to mock them.

If it mocked them for things they actually did, it would be one thing, but people believe that it is accurately portraying them and so it spreads misinformation as part of a hate campaign.

I've studied leni reifenstahl as well, and this is propaganda of e highest order. Only instead of targeting Jews, it targets anyone who is not a socialist.

[panacea]

Did you seriously just compare The Daily Show to Nazi Propaganda films?

(And there's no way I accept that it's a socialist hate campaign... that's straight out of Glenn Beck rhetoric land).

[elblanco]

Don't feed the troll. This guy is clearly stuck in 1950's McCarthy-land and thinks Godwin's law is a guidebook, not a admonishment of sloppy thinking. You'll only be debating your grandfather here.

[lzw]

Godwins law doesn't exist. If you bothered to know what You were talking a out you'd know Godwin never made any such law. It is an excuse for holocaust deniers to refuse to admit that the Nazi party was real and did exist and therefore the causes and situations relevant to their existence are worth considering.

Notice also, I did not make any comparison to hitler, i asked how he thought the German people let Nazis come to power and why.

Of course, that was a question that you don't answer, instead you engage in personal attack.

If you actually cared for debate, your only contribution wouldn't be ad hominem and lies.

[elblanco]

I care for debate, but just to be clear not with insane conspiracy theorists who respond to every claim with "socialism! fascists! lies! nazis!".

Let me short circuit any possible debate anybody will have with you. You have nothing of substance to say, and are not willing to learn anything beyond the tiny bubble of self-selected extremest rhetoric and talking points you've constructed for yourself. Any engagement with you is preordained to end in a flame war full of allusions to Nazis and Communists with you painted as a Bastian of goodness, carefully lecturing the ignorant masses in the one true path you've discovered for yourself. Any statement against you is clearly made by a moron trying to spread lies and deceit.

You believe you know everything but don't even seem to be aware of anything -- least of which is that you come across like a nutter.

Go get a life and leave HN out of your bumbling, ignorant, sheep-like rantings. Find a place in the countryside away from people and stop inflicting yourself on humanity.

Flagged.

[greyfade]

Wow. You don't actually know what Godwin's Law is?

To paraphrase:

> As the length of a discussion grows, the probability of there being a comparison with Hitler, or the Nazi party will approach one.

It's an admonishment against exactly what you're doing. As someone's argument is shown to be weak, they inevitably invoke Naziism, not only inappropriately, but in a way that casts light to the weakness of their argument. ... Which is what you're doing.

[lzw]

Absolutely, and I say this as one who studied many semesters in college the films of Germany, Nazi, pre-Nazi and post Nazi.

Of course you won't accept it as a socialist hate campaign.

Do you think that Germans are genetically predisposed to fascism? Do you think they are weak or inferior to Americans in some way? How is it, do you suppose, that they let Nazis take power, and commit such massive crimes?

[krschultz]

Why does socialism == hate campaign? What is the association between them?

There is a huge difference between a Democrat/liberal person and a socialist, and a huge difference between socialists and facists, and all of them are short of being Nazis.

Anyone standing on the right, painting everyone to their left as socialist Nazis trying to destroy America are completely out of touch.

[lzw]

Omg, do you know Nazi is short for? Nationalist socialists. It is a socialist party. Fascism differs from socialism only in the businesses being titularly in private hands, but they are completely controlled by the government in both.

I think it is quite sad to see so many people who are clearly ignorant about this history using their ignorance as a justification to call me names.

[krschultz]

That's what NAZI stands for? OMG, I HAD NO IDEA.

Of course that's what Nazi stands for. Lets ignore that they were really bad at being socialist among other things, when you think of Nazis what is the first thing you think of? If you are a normal person, it is WW2, the holocaust, death camps, abuse of POWs, Jews (basically everyone), etc.

What does that have to do with their economic policy?

Would you be OK with the Nazis if they cut taxes and reduced regulation? Of course not. The issue with the Nazis is not what they did economically, but what they did militarily.

Socialism is just a set of economic beliefs. And clearly you don't understand them.

[nkohari]

I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, so here's a bunny with a pancake on its head.

http://media.photobucket.com/image/bunny%20pancake/DKaidian/...