[freerobby]

Eh. The phrase "technically correct" comes to mind. Sure, it won't be formally disproven, but if Tesla doesn't deliver FSD while these cars are on the road, that will definitely (and very rightfully) be seen as an inability to deliver.

Also, I think the conversation about Lidar in this article (and perhaps among some readers here) misses a key point. Elon doesn't think merely that one can build a Level 4 car without Lidar; he thinks it's vastly preferable for a Level 4 car not to have any dependency on Lidar -- not only for cost reasons, but also for performance in degraded atmospheric conditions (rain, snow, fog, etc.). It's a difference in strategy, not merely an attempt to do more with less.

[lsh123]

Visibility range and quality of pictures in degraded atmospheric conditions also goes down significantly. Not sure if it can be an argument for Lidar vs Cameras discussion.