[creo]

There is no option to pay them to not see the ads. There is no option to pay them so they don't gather information about You. THEY OWN YOU. Even if Facebook gets out of business, other will do it. Your phone, your TV, watch, fucking juicer whatever connected to internet is collecting information. THERE IS NO WAY TO OPT-OUT. It may sound creepy and disconnected from reality, but in the core that's exactly what it is. You may not like it, You can disagree, but it happens anyway.

[bo1024]

This is true in a practical sense for most laypeople, but it's not literally true and doesn't have to be.

(1) Don't buy "smart" devices that collect data. You don't need them.

(2) Don't visit facebook.

(3) Don't allow your browser to run javascript from facebook or anyone you don't trust.

It's that easy, and there are tools to help you do (3) such as adblockers and other browser plugins. For (2), even if you occasionally visit facebook, you can minimize information collected by controlling the environment you visit from (e.g. tor browser, VPN, virtual machine, etc).

The more challenging problem is data that your friends give Facebook about you, such as your contact info and tagging your face in photos. I wonder how long under GDPR till someone sues their facebook friends for providing information without permission?

[dspillett]

> There is no option to pay them so they don't gather information about You.

I would absolutely 100% not trust that they wouldn't track me anyway. How could they not? Even if I trusted them (which I don't) it isn't possible: they'd at least need to know it was me where-ever I want so they'd know to not track me as I'd paid...

Would you pay someone to not follow you down the street? If you did you'd have a queue of people following you to collect their "share".

[creo]

Yes. They need to identify You to know that You don't want to be tracked. Also DNT header is like laughable IT meme.

[igravious]

Typing in BLOCK CAPS doesn't strengthen your argument.

[creo]

It's bold replacement.

[igravious]

“How Capital Letters Became Internet Code for Yelling”

https://newrepublic.com/article/117390/netiquette-capitaliza...

There's a difference between emphasizing something and yelling it.

You can use * (asterisk) or _ (underscore) surrounding a word or words for emphasis. Like this (asterisk) or _this_. As you can see, asterisks get interpreted by HN into italics. So maybe you can think of underscores as _bold_?

[creo]

Ok. Since editing is no longer available, i'll use that notation in the future. Thanks!

[igravious]

You're more than welcome!