[pubg]

Are you able to share any specific complaints, gripes or issues? This entire thread is an Oracle bash fest without much specific data or information.

Don't get me wrong, not a huge fan of Oracle but am curious to know if there is an actual problem, or if this is simply a hater-ade/fanboy party with no substance.

[anoncoward1234]

Given that my comment blew up and has high visibility I feel I probably shouldn't share anything specific. It was a pretty much throw away comment that I didn't expect to get as much attention as it did. The best I can say is that after working for the company I think that the general news.ycombinator.com beliefs on the performance of Oracle are entirely justified. I thought going in that it may have been overblown, like you say some sort of "startups are cool, big corps are evil boo" kind of thing, but it is not. I love the people I work with in my section! Just, not the overall firm.

[rdl]

I wonder if there will be a management witch hunt against the Solutions Engineering team on Monday provoked by your post.

[stale2002]

Well the joke would be on management. I am sure that ALL of the solutions engineers think that the product is garbage, given that they are the ones who have to deal with the problems.

[userbinator]

I am sure that ALL of the solutions engineers think that the product is garbage, given that they are the ones who have to deal with the problems.

On the other hand, without the problems, the solution engineers might not exist...

...which is, in one sentence, the reason why Oracle consultants exist.

[jmspring]

If you are still looking about, our group at Microsoft - CSE (commercial software engineering) is hiring. Some evangelism, lots of open source, the group I am part of works heavily with both the open source side of things as well as the product team around Kubernetes.

[jlgaddis]

> ... but am curious to know if there is an actual problem, or if this is simply a hater-ade/fanboy party with no substance.

You've never had to deal with Oracle sales or "support" staff or -- even worse -- manage or support Oracle products in production, have you? If you had, well, you would already know the answer. Oracle RDBMS might be the one exception.

(FWIW, I mean "real" Oracle products, not, say, MySQL or Oracle Linux, for example.)

[manigandham]

The Oracle cloud is available to anyone and comes with $300 of credit: https://cloud.oracle.com/home

Ignore the comments and just try it. Run an instance for a weekend, try to setup a site or install a DB and see how it goes. I think you'll learn very quickly why the reputation exists.

[gpm]

The pricing seems... really weird. Many very different offerings are priced exactly the same. E.g.

VM.Standard.1.1 and VM.Standard1.16, same cost but the latter has 16 cores instead of 1 (same CPU), 112 GB memory instead of 7.

https://cloud.oracle.com/en_US/iaas/pricing

[manigandham]

The pricing is per OCPU (Oracle CPU core) per hour. 16 cores = 16x the listed price for a single core. But yes, the table is a perfect example of how bad everything is.

[Spooky23]

If you ever think you understand the price of anything Oracle, take it as a signal that you are wrong.