[lovich]

I don't know. Those all seem like valid complaints to me. The os is separate from the applications and everything he listed has its own industry.

Microsoft was reamed over installing IE as the default browser on their OS, so how is not letting you change safari as the default on iOS any different?

[dpkonofa]

Microsoft had a monopoly. Apple doesn't. If you don't like it, go buy an Android phone.

[lovich]

Coulda said the same thing with Microsoft, go buy a Mac. Monoply power isn't a binary stat, it's a sliding scale and eventually these companies get enough power to start affecting other industries

[eesmith]

A court judgment that a company has abused its monopoly power is a binary stat.

[hungerstrike]

Yes, and Apple might have one of those binary stats coming their way soon. Let's hope, right?

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-apple-court/u-s-appeals-c...

[StavrosK]

I mean, that's exactly what many of us are doing.

[dpkonofa]

I know. That's my point. People are complaining about decisions made by the company as if they're civil rights violations.

"I can't change the default SMS app on my phone!" This has always been the case with the iPhone since the beginning. Until Apple says that this is now a new part of the OS, pretending like that was some kind of bait and switch or deceptive business practice is completely silly.

[hungerstrike]

> People are complaining about decisions made by the company as if they're civil rights violations.

No they aren't - not here at least. Scanning this thread, it looks like they're just complaining.

> pretending like that was some kind of bait and switch or deceptive business practice is completely silly.

Who did that? Can you point out a specific comment? I certainly didn't and I don't see any other comments that did. I simply pointed out how Apple makes their product difficult to use by being so stingy with the level of access that they allow me to have.

Anyway, there is an anti-trust lawsuit against Apple right now. Since their iPhone does have somewhere around 50% marketshare in the USA I think there's a chance for it to succeed and I hope it does.

[dpkonofa]

>Anyway, there is an anti-trust lawsuit against Apple right now.

And what are the damages claimed against them? Even if they have 50% marketshare, they still have competition with a larger marketshare both domestic and worldwide. There's nothing that can be brought against them because they're not doing anything illegal or immoral.

[hungerstrike]

You can read about it for yourself - https://www.reuters.com/article/us-apple-court/u-s-appeals-c...