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by fricat1ve 2988 days ago
You're making this very hand-wavy calculation. Hardly any 45 year olds were dying of hep C, even the older ones had lots of comorbidities & other risk factors, which is what one would expect for a disease acquired through intravenous drug use, and often transmitted in prisons or unsanitary tattoo parlors, and the drugs don't have a perfect cure rate.

In any case it's nearly irrelevant because this was a completely post-hoc rationale for pricing this drug. I am not opposed to large cash bounties for major advances but our current system is not remotely designed around that principle. Forgive me for thinking you are defending the wrong system.

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In one study, 60% of the people who died of Hep-C were between 45 and 59: https://www.hepmag.com/article/death-risk-24659-138388084. More than half of cases aren't the result of intravenous drug use: https://aasldpubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1002/cl....

> In any case it's nearly irrelevant because this was completely post-hoc rationale for pricing this drug

Drug development, like tech startups, is high risk, but every now and then creates a lot of economic value. To make the system sustainable, there must be a way of capturing a significant chunk of that value from those "unicorns." So yes, it's post hoc in the sense that you don't know until after you roll the decide whether a particular drug is going to create a lot of value or not. That's the case with most high risk investments.

> Forgive me for thinking you are defending the wrong system.

Forgive me for thinking that people are completely nuts for thinking it's a good idea to lower the potential rewards to investment for industries that are "more important." It's completely ass-backward.

Those studies don't say what you're claiming.

I meant the pricing was post-hoc in the sense that they came up with a story like yours for why it was worth $84,000 when they were bringing it to market. There was no precedent for a pill that costly when the research was undertaken. Even in the case of HCV--the best case to be discussing if you're an advocate of for-profit medicine--it's not a good example of an incentive structure.

You need to do a bit more reading. The latest Hep C drugs have cure rates of over 99%. Even NICE, the UK's cost-effectiveness committee said that Sovaldi is cost-effective.