[mindslight]

It doesn't really - we need to get to a point where all of these surveillance companies are out of business.

Using data about a user with their consent seems perfectly fine. The fiction where this consent can be granted in perpetuity is not.

[fixermark]

Unfortunately, as long as consumers can't be uniformly and universally trusted, there's but a market and a compelling, morally-acceptable use case for consumer tracking and reporting in that regard. So if what Facebook doesn't differ from consumer reporting in some other way, I don't see a compelling argument to toss it for the same reason I don't see a compelling argument to toss, say, return fraud tracking.

[bobwaycott]

> Using data about a user with their consent seems perfectly fine. The fiction where this consent can be granted in perpetuity is not.

Not only that, but I think there is considerable trouble in interpreting consent when users cannot demonstrate or articulate a thorough understanding of exactly what such consent and data usage entails.