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by zaroth 2992 days ago
Okay lets move the goalposts.

> People weren’t dying in their Tesla’s before Autosteer

This is false. Although Tesla fatalities tend to be a bit over the top like driving off cliffs, or stolen car escape gone wrong type of situations, there have certainly been non-Autopilot related fatalities in Teslas.

> but now we're looking at 4 deaths and counting in the space of 2 years

This is false. There have been 2 fatalities in Tesla’s which are known to have been operating with Autopilot at the time. There was also one fatality in China where the family claims autopilot was on at the time but Wikipedia states this was not confirmed.

> all directly attributable to the use of Autopilot.

I take issue with “directly attributable” simply based on NTSB (a neutral 3rd party if ever there was one) disagreeing with that. They found Autopilot was not at fault in the Florida crash. I think a neutral fact-finder would defer to the NTSB and rank your claim as false.

But finally, you disregard the obvious flaw in your logic, which is you can’t possibly know how many potentially fatal crashes or maimings have been avoided due to AutoPilot, except the one thing we do know is that airbags in Teslas are deploying 40% less with the feature than without.