[Rebelgecko]

That seems like an incredibly misleading way to market it. I could throw a LIDAR[0] and some cameras on my car and say "wow I have all the hardware necessary for autonomy". That's irrelevant if self-driving is dependent on some software updates that are coming at an unspecified point in the future (or gradually over time, with some surprise regressions like this one along the way).

[0] Tesla thinks they'll have full self driving with just cameras but I'm not convinced. Regardless of how level 4+ autonomy is achieved, there's still some serious work that needs to happen on the software side

[jdcarr]

You're touching on one of the things that Tesla does that frustrates me to no end. They have this attitude of software being the solution to everything. Waymo has a reason they've mounted lidar to the roofs of their cars, it isn't because they can't build good enough software or their ML models aren't accurate enough, it's because they've realised that you can't just throw a bunch of cameras on a car, add some computer vision algorithms and market it to consumers as being fully self driving capable.