[collinmanderson]

...and then there's Mega Large orgs, like Google, who are used to maintaining their own software.

I am super curious what Google will do. The thing to watch is whether Chrome/Chromium (and therefore Node.js) can ever be built without using Python 2.7.

[joshuamorton]

Mega large orgs have already moved, in some cases. They have the advantage of being able to throw significant resources into infrastructure to make switching easy.

[collinmanderson]

I'm thinking about Google, Mozilla, Dropbox, etc. They still use a lot of Python 2.

[rankam]

Google created Golang and then created a tool to convert Python2 -> Go.

https://github.com/google/grumpy

[collinmanderson]

That grumpy project seems to have stalled in the last 6 months.

I feel like Google hasn't made much progress converting away from Python 2.

Python 2.7 is still required to build Chrome, for example, and I don't think there are any plans to change that. https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=61357

And, I believe they use 2.7 whenever they use TensorFlow.

[joshuamorton]

Indeed, on the other hand facebook has (mostly/significantly) moved to py3, Google is chugging in that direction at a feverish pace, etc.