[pas]

What's amazing is that pip3 gladly downloads and tries to install py2 stuff. Because package/dependency management is a complete afterthought in Python.

And sure, it'll get better, and finally we have lockfiles (Pipenv), and maybe eventually a proper SAT solver will help resolving dependencies https://github.com/pypa/pip/issues/988#issuecomment-36084645... , aaand gradual typing is nice too, and maybe eventually we'll have a proper async library (python-trio, as asyncio is there, but not low level and/or not ergonomic enough).

Yet Python is free and open, and amazing, and I haven't contributed much other than report bugs, so I'm not complaining, just comparing to other ecosystems.

[beagle3]

Conda has a silver and has been available for however many years. It also works well with pip.

Among people complain about python package management, I have never heard an argument against Conda other than “I don’t like that they recompile base python”. What’s your reason to discount conda?

[kalefranz]

Our python is compiled with the latest versions of gcc (on Linux) and clang (on macOS). So you're getting gcc 7.2 compiled python on RHEL/CentOS 6. And all of the security and performance enhancements that come along with it [1]. (Ok we're still on 7.2; we'll update to 7.3 in the next couple months.)

[1] https://www.anaconda.com/blog/developer-blog/improved-securi...

[kalefranz]

P.S. If you're looking for a latest and greatest C/C++ compiler toolchain that's backed with "production" testing via hundreds of millions of package installs and works on older versions of linux...