[ianseyer]

provided:

- the passwords aren't stored in plaintext or any other compromised hashing mechanism

- you autogenerated your password

- your password manager does not get compromised

saying "it actually does" is a bit of absolutist stretch...

[arghwhat]

Furthermore, none of this is a side-effect of using a password manager. It just makes doing so more convenient.

[aidenn0]

Within a margin of error, zero people can remember 20 16-character random alphanumeric passwords. Therefore it is only possible using some sort of password manager, whether it be something like 1password or an old-fashioned notebook.

[arghwhat]

You need to specify your margin of error. ± the full population of humans on Earth is "a margin of error".

I may be an outlier, but I certainly remember 10+ 20-25 character random full-printable-ASCII passwords, some of which don't let a password manager handle them, others which I don't want to have in a manager. And then there's my password manager master password, which is close to 70 characters long.

And I have shitty memory—I wouldn't be able to remember what happened more than a few days ago if my life depended on it.

[majewsky]

> Within a margin of error, [the value of a measure is] zero.

Nitpick: Zero does not have a magnitude, so "a margin of error" is not remotely well-defined here.

[aidenn0]

Nitpick nitpick: margin of error can be either absolute or relative.

[arghwhat]

Nitpick nitpick nitpick: "margin of error" without any value effectively means "the following value has no meaning at all", as the margin of error is unspecified.