[thijsb]

We’ve had no problem hiring people without degrees in the Netherlands (from outside EU/EER). But you need a high-skilled job, with requirements to your salary (which with CS you’ll most likely meet), and you need to sign a contract before you can get the visa. Most Companies will take care of the visa for you. I don’t know the exact name of the visa, I can look it up for you if you like.

[rollulus]

I believe [1] should contain the information you need. And thanks to brilliant lobbyists and reluctant politicians you'll get a 30% tax reduction then as well [2], lucky you!

[1]: https://ind.nl/en [2]: https://www.belastingdienst.nl/wps/wcm/connect/bldcontenten/...

[brailsafe]

Thanks, I'd really appreciate that. The name is surprisingly important because some countries have very similar sounding visas with very different requirements. Netherlands is definitely one of the countries I'd be interested in but haven't yet researched.

[sAbakumoff]

It's called high-skilled migrants. You can always check IND we-site for more information https://ind.nl/en/work/Pages/Highly-skilled-migrant.aspx

[deivid]

I recently moved to nl, with no degree. You just need to earn more than 36k to be accepted as a highly skilled migrant, and on top of that you get a big tax rebate, the "30% ruling"

[brailsafe]

Euros I presume?

[Mandatum]

You're going to have a ball. Would definitely recommend Germany, once you're there you'll come across plenty of opportunities for sponsorship to other countries of your choosing - just get over there on the Freelance visa to begin with. Or alternatively go to the UK first for a 2 year visa, and find a country that's happy with remote work.

Your biggest hurdle will be your first job in the EU. So make sure your first visa isn't tied to your job, because you'll likely want to change it in the short-term. After that - it's smooth sailing.

[brailsafe]

Thanks for the support :)

It sounds like you've followed a similar path. Mind expanding on your experience?

[Mandatum]

Am from NZ, moved to AU but no visa requirements for me. Half of my friends have moved to the EU or Australia and told me about their move.

[brailsafe]

AU. Is that Australia or Austria? Was your first comment based entirely on your the experience of your friends?

[justinclift]

It's probably Australia, as (AFAIK) people from New Zealand don't need any kind of visa to live and work in Australia.

[Mandatum]

AT is Austria ;)

[pen2l]

How’s the situation for folks over 30 without a degree trying to get in eu?

[sAbakumoff]

In Netherlands it's better for you if you are older than 30 because your salary requirements imposed by the government are much higher(4.404 euros per month) than those for under 30 y.o. guys(3.229 euros per month).

[deniedeee]

So it's actually worse, right? Having to find a job that pays much more is actually more difficult, isn't it?

[sAbakumoff]

I can only tell from my experience - I(35 y.o.) had 3 interviews in NL, 2 offers and took the one that had the highest wage that is even greater than required minimum..Also, I believe that it's pretty easy to find a developer job in NL because it seems that the country lacks IT professionals..

[ddorian43]

Dude, all offers are greater than the minimum. Doesn't make sense to offer otherwise.