[maxerickson]

I didn't say that. I said it should be available to every student, which is not the case.

It's directly a failure of the primary education system, but it is more a failure of leadership and resources than anything else.

As far as NCLB, the response to it is a bigger problem than the law. There's nothing in it stopping states from investing in both helping underachieving students and in helping other students get ahead. NCLB didn't tell Oklahoma to slash taxes and burn their schools.

[skookumchuck]

> a failure of leadership and resources

Why is it more expensive to teach, say, calculus than algebra? Offering more advanced classes should not cost more.

[thoth]

Well, the more difficult/specialized the subject, the fewer available teachers. Plus, someone that knows calculus well enough to teach it likely has other job prospects (competitive pay).

[skookumchuck]

I guess I'm the opposite, you'd have to pay me extra to induce me to teach the more basic material.

[chrisseaton]

> Why is it more expensive to teach, say, calculus than algebra?

Because educating someone to teach more advanced subjects takes more times and resources.

[skookumchuck]

But the teachers have masters degrees.

Besides, teaching college freshman calculus is not exactly magneto hydrodynamics.

[chrisseaton]

But most of them don't have masters degrees in mathematics, do they? Many of them will have a generic Master of Education degree.

The normally accepted education level for teaching a university-level class is a PhD.

[skookumchuck]

You don't need a masters degree in math to teach freshman calculus.

I was taught freshman calc by grad students - with no "education" training whatsoever. Perhaps these "masters" of education are learning the wrong things.

Freshman calculus just isn't that hard, and isn't much beyond algebra. This "gee math is hard" crap is, well, crap. No PhD is necessary. Hell, I taught it to my kids on the kitchen table, and I have no advanced degree and never took a course in education.

[chrisseaton]

Do you think someone needs any education at all in a subject to each it? Do you think someone who has never studied calculus should be able to teach it?