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by captn3m0 2997 days ago
>The article mentions fraud is a big issue.

When tackling fraud, you must look at 1)exclusions and 2)cost.

In the case of aadhaar, we've seen the project baloon in cost and vision over the span of two different governments. There have been savings number reported by the government that have since been redacted by the World Bank (but the government keeps claiming them). At some point, you must take stock and consider if the amount you are spending to tackle fraud in the system - is it worth it?

Also, Aadhaar is not a fraud-proof system. The most common type of subsidy-fraud (for food benefits) is quantity fraud where the shopkeeper would sign away 5kg, but only give you 4kg (and sell the other 1kg at a higher rate on the market). There is nothing in the aadhaar system that prevents it (and other kinds of fraud)

Second: Exclusions. Jharkhand, with the highest rate of authentication failures has had multiple deaths. Due to how the system works now (you receive benefits in your bank account instead of directly getting subsidized rations), it requires double the effort (which converts to one-fewer working/earning day because of the extra bank trip).

https://thewire.in/rights/jharkhand-nagri-ration-pds-direct-... is a harrowing read, if someone's interested.

>* Requiring a government ID to enter a middle school art contest.

We've gone beyond this. Nursery schools in india for toddlers now demand aadhaar numbers of both parents and the kid.

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What is your solution ? It kind of seems like Aadhar should be better managed... rather than reinvent another identity system, sure I am optimistic that Aadhar will improve (Its a very new system compared to SSN or other identity systems)

Regarding ballooning costs, so many successful programs have had costs that exceeded the plan, so far with Aadhar there has been no evidence that the ballooning costs have been debilitating and on the contrary Aadhar seems to be helping.

I'm just a security researcher, and unfortunately I don't have any concrete suggestions. I'm hoping that the Supreme Court takes a favorable approach to this madness and limits the damage (by asking the government to stick to its 2015 order which limited mandatory usage of aadhaar to 3 schemes only, for eg).

On balooning costs - Yes, the scope has vastly increased:

1. it was supposed to be a YES/NO boolean API, which has since become a complete eKYC API giving third parties access to your data

2. State resident data hubs that maintain a copy of your biometrics and data to enable state level surveillance

3. Pushing of mandatory linkages has cost us thousands of crores already.

(and more that I'm missing - this is early morning IST now and I'm getting sleepy). A lot of this should not have been allowed in a scheme that was passed in the parliament as a "Money Bill". The helping part is non-proportional to the expenditure which we've seen - this is under purview in the SC hearing as well.

I am sure that I can find flaws in some of the best identity systems in the world - but I am not sure if just finding faults make a good discussion hence I am not going to do that (in addition to not want being labeled a cynic).

Also when you say the costs are not proportional to the benefits... I don’t know if it needs to be proportional, also is there a well researchered study that talks negatively about the overall value provided - I find that hard to believe ?

Usually legislature is free to spend money on programs as long as it is not against the law or constitution and judiciary can’t interfere on such matters. I don’t know what is in the scope of S.C w.r.t Aadhar - I can see some kind of violation of civil liberties within its scope... but I can’t see how cost benefit analysis is within SC’s scope. So I may not comment on it until it plays out.

India spends a lot of money on roads which should have last year's but fails every monsoon. Aadhar expenditure might be a small blip compared to those.

Govt were anyway required for most things in India. This is just another card. The main issue would be accepting it without finger verification.

The parts that sounded reasonable sound less so given this context.
It is guaranteed to get worse if the Supreme Court doesn't step in. For eg - Aadhaar enabled payments are on their way, and there is a push from the government to get Aadhaar authenticated ATMs out (fingerprint based). Think of what happens when your Aadhaar is disabled? We've already had people die on hospital entrances because they couldn't find the patient's Aadhaar[0], now we're moving closer to a guaranteed civil death.

The state of Telangana, for eg is turning into a over-policed state with:

- The state police maintaining a copy of the Aadhaar Data[1]

- And using it to geo-tag each resident[2]

- And track petty crimes using aadhaar[3]

Our only hope at this point is that the Supreme Court gives a favorable verdict.

[0]: https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/chandigarh/hospital...

[1]: http://srdh.telangana.gov.in/tgsrdh/DataSeeding.html

[2]: https://twitter.com/digitaldutta/status/958251786803994624

[3]: https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/hyderabad/aadhaar-l...

Why are you blaming Aadhar instead of hospital. What kind of hospital turncoat aways critical patients. Btw the hospital in my area were not accepting card payments before demonization. They wanted only cash.