[trenninghard]

Also note the steroids OP listed are all orals, the list you have for steroids are oils that are injected.

All of these are used with a testosterone base. You don't want to run any of these without test. Some people back in the early bodybuilding days would use nandrolone (better known as Deca or the other variant equipose) as a stand alone cycle but that isn't recommended now.

Another thing that I haven't seen mentioned anywhere here is the use of HGH, IGF1, and insulin.

If you're training seriously for physical sport you need to be on an HGH cycle. This is something that isn't illegal(well its usually aquired illegally) and is prescribed through 'healtg and wellness' or anti-aging clinics.

Insulin is probably going to be more common for weight lifting because it is an incredible anabolic hormone. There are huge risks to using it and can kill you if you mess up. Shockingly anyone can walk into Walgreens and buy it though.

[loeg]

Thanks. I haven't used steroids myself and am unfamiliar with the details of doing a cycle. Quick google search — you would use the testosterone base because the steroids otherwise inhibit your natural test production?

Is there any good evidence that HGH helps sports? My understanding is that there evidence is limited and it isn't clear it's positive.

[trenninghard]

Correct the other steroids can still cause your natural production to shut off which is going to make your body feel like crap.

HGH is going to be beneficial because of it's going to increase collegan in your body which will make your joints and ligaments stronger. It's going to help with wuicker recovery from from work outs. Also most people report getting better sleep while using it. So hgh isn't going to make you huge directly rather it's more of a behind the scenes thing helping you out. If you are predisposed for cancer though you might want to be careful. Hgh of course does increase the rate of cellular growth and division so you are increasing your odds of cancer by taking it, I'm not a doctor and that could be bs but I think it's worth considering considering