[gepi79]

Try to eat 3000 calories in a vegan way without cheating by eating lots of processed vegan food like candy, fat or oil.

Nobody eats only steak. People want fat and carbs for the taste.

[base698]

Steak has fat and the fat has a satiating effect. Sugar is the opposite.

There are people that eat only steak: https://www.biohackerslab.com/ep19-dr-shawn-baker/

[gepi79]

Of course there are always exceptions.

By "nobody" I meant "nobody representative of a noteworthy population in statistics".

Even if you do not trust the scientific consensus regarding nutrion (all recommend fruits (sugar) and vegetables, most recommend a whole food plant based diet, most warn against a high fat diet, most warn against animal products in large quantities) there are other reasons for avoiding animal products:

- Ethics. An animal is a sentient emotional being. Like a human.

- Destruction of the environment. E.g. waste of food by feeding animals, deforestation, water pollution, greenhouse gas emission.

- Waste of effictive antibiotics. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4638249/

- Animal products are expensive even if you buy the lowest quality.

[base698]

Not debating any of those points, only that sugar and junk food makes you hungrier and therefore harder to diet. There is an obesity epidemic that seems to be getting worse. I'm more interested in that problem.

Some of what you describe can be attributed more to factory farming which I generally disagree and personally don't buy.

Animal products aren't expensive if you compare calories per dollar.

[gepi79]

IMO this guy gives a bad unhealthy impression; physically and mentally.

Furthermore: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lc23vYwPihU

[itchyouch]

definitely difficult, but using nuts and bread would probably be the way to cram the calories in.

[gepi79]

Yes. Nuts contain much fat and thus much energy per weight and volume.