[k_sze]

Except if they are too late.

Take a look at the new Dell XPS 15” 2-in-1, with Intel Core i7-8705G (with AMD Radeon RX Vega M GH, 4GB of dedicated HMB2), e.g.

That thing ticks most checkboxes of a pro machine, except for the “is a Mac” and “runs Mac-only software” ones.

And I imagine that an upgraded version will come out in 2019. Honestly, I find both Windows 10 Pro and Ubuntu very usable nowadays. I don’t really find much reason to stick with a Mac anymore.

[zokier]

> That thing ticks most checkboxes of a pro machine

Except for little things like (workstation) Xeon CPU and pro graphics (Quadro or whatever ATi is calling their FirePros these days).

If you want a actual pro system, check out Dells workstation line, e.g. Precision 7520. Sure, its not light and pretty like a XPS, but you can load it with fairly serious amount of stuff and as a cherry on top it comes with Linux support out of the box.

Workstations are just a different class of computers.

[zokier]

Oh, and actual desktop workstations (which Mac Pro would be competing against) are yet another class. I just had some fun at Dell website, and you can configure a desktop system with dual Xeon Platinum (lol) 8180 CPUs. Those have 28 cores each. The memory configuration taps out at 12x32 GB. With 384 GB of RAM and 112 HW threads, you might be able to even run Atom and Slack simultaneously.

[gurkendoktor]

The XPS 2-in-1 has also dropped all useful (in the present) ports, reduced the keyboard travel, and messed up the arrow key area on their keyboards.

I'm worried that the XPS line is trying too hard to be a MacBook; what if they want to make next year's model even thinner?

Their "classic" XPS 15 looks fantastic, but I've read too many complaints about reliability and coil whine. I hope they keep iterating on it for a few more years.

[ssijak]

Windows 10 is one giant malware/virus. The interface is terrible too, but that is a preference.

[jjeaff]

I don't run antivirus software, only ublock. I have literally not had a virus or malware infection in the last 10 years of pro use.

And I use BitTorrent and Usenet frequently.

Where/how are you getting all this malware?

[zokier]

Please don't feed the trolls.