[aurizon]

I respect the NTSB, but I do not like institutional secrecy aspects to try to muzzle Tesla - facts like this can help people from placing excessive reliability on self driving abilities of Tesla's autopilot - as long as personal privacy is respected. After all, calling it an autopilot is intrinsically wrong - as Tesla repeatedly asserts.

[masklinn]

Is it institutional secrecy or is it disapproval of unilateral disclosure of only a sub-set of elements of an ongoing inquest?

[classicsnoot]

What is the distinction between the two that changes the justification? I see those things as part of each other, as in institutional secrecy is bred from ongoing inquests in perpetuity.

[wpietri]

The NTSB has a 50+ year history of producing detailed reports on accidents:

https://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/AccidentReports/Pages/Ac...

The notion that they'd suddenly turn secretive now seems absurd to me. Given their expertise and excellent track record, I think it's reasonable to trust them when they say they want to completed the investigation and publish a proper report, just like they do with other accidents.

[classicsnoot]

Just to clarify, "secrecy" is not a word to which I attach negative sentiment.

[masklinn]

> What is the distinction between the two that changes the justification?

That one is a form of bias whereas the other is the opposite of bias: you don't want elements of an ongoing inquest to be released independently because they don't provide a complete picture of the investigative results, and thus provide a biased outlook on the event.

> I see those things as part of each other, as in institutional secrecy is bred from ongoing inquests in perpetuity.

NTSB inquests have never been "ongoing in perpetuity". They provide thorough and extensive public reports.

Their entire purpose is to minimise future risk and they're very good at that. The point of discretion until all the facts are in (what you insultingly call "institutional secrecy") is that until as much as possible is known, there may be a major piece missing from the data which changes everything.

[aurizon]

What has Tesla concealed - as you intimate? What does the NTSB know they are not telling? One hopes their report at the end will tell all.

[tedunangst]

I think the idea is we don't know what they're not telling us because they haven't told us what they're not telling us.

[masklinn]

And even they might not know that they're "not telling us", because the investigation is ongoing and who knows what'll be uncovered?