[2muchcoffeeman]

I'm using a HP Elitebook 840 running Ubuntu 16.04 LTS. Didn't work with 14.04 LTS either.

I hope you appreciate that you wrote 4 paragraphs on how I could improve on picking a laptop from the Ubuntu Certified list to have fewer problems.

>If you really want this to be a happening thing the logical thing to do is to support vendors that sell Linux machines with your money.

I've been using Linux since 99. It's never worked without problems. It's been 20 years and I can't pick a laptop off a list of Certified hardware and be confident. I abandoned linux for home use a decade ago which makes me sad because I wish my side project laptop could be a linux machine. Development is so much easier on linux.

[michaelmrose]

Any particular reason in 19 years for not buying a machine that comes with Linux pre installed?

I bought a used ThinkPad from Craigslist after googling the model and the word Linux. Worked for me.