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by ReverseCold 2997 days ago
Linux is actually good now for desktop use. I install it (= Fedora or Antergos w/ GNOME) on everything now and it just works(tm).

Not a single thing has been broken across two modern PCs and a laptop.

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Linux is actually good now for desktop use. I install it (= Fedora or Antergos w/ GNOME) on everything now and it just works(tm).

If I got a dollar every time I heard this... I have a Linux machine at home, but GNOME still crashes 50% of the time when I switch the screen off/on. If it switches on without crashing, many applications are LoDPI until I restart them.

The machine doesn't always come back properly from sleep. Sometimes there are display artifacts, sometimes I cannot show windows of running applications.

This is all on well-supported hardware (RHEL-certified Dell Precision, an AMD GPU supported by amdgpu, etc.).

Linux has become pretty great, but it's definitely not a 'just works' experience on a lot of hardware and for a lot of uses.

While Windows keeps crashing and is glitchy, laggy, likes to crash and is generally disgusting and mac OS (Hackintosh) is unreliable and with a not very customizable UI, Elementary OS works very well on the Xiaomi Mi Notekook Air 13 (what a name).

If something breaks I can fix it. I can easily schedule jobs (tried it on Windows, fucking night mare), define my own trackpad gestures, lower the screen brightness to an acceptable level ...

Linux, with all of its flaws, is by far the least frustrating OS, imo.

... Unless you need some Apps.

You’re trying to run MacOS on unsupported hardware and configuring it yourself (instead of letting Apple do it as they always do) which is the only reason it’s more frustrating than Linux. Buying Linux vs. MacOS directly from the manufacturer is a different story and for most users MacOS clearly wins.
Hackintosh is not the only reason mac OS doesn't work well for me. It the system runs surprisingly well on many system, the problem is often mac OS itself. That said: It's better than Windows.
Question is “good for what?”

It simply doesn’t have the polish, or flexibility that I’d need to effectively stay on it for long. I always end up spending longggg times customizing things only to feel little integration, little support, and a lack of decent third party software. Sketch is Mac only. Spotify barely has a Linux client. Certainly no photoshop, medocire native email clients, zero IM that integrate with any networks I use (sms/iMessage), etc etc. Yes there’s lots of options as a webpage, but that’s a shallow substitute.

If you happen to need only the stuff that’s available, and your workflow is largely CLI-driven, then it’s probably fine. Otherwise it’s macOS for me.

Spotify for Linux is exactly the same as Spotify for Windows oral macOS. KDE connect allows for SMS integration within the desktop.

I'm not going to tell you to go Linux if you like macOS, but please don't spread misinformation.

Spotify on Linux == Spotify on Mac == Spotify on Windows == Spotify on the web.

It's an electron app.

Is it an Electron app now? Last time I poked around on macOS (admittedly, about a year ago), it didn’t look like an Electron app to me, but it most definitely was using a web view of some kind.
It's not Electron, but it is Chromium.
FYI - Spotify does have a Linux client and it's quite decent https://www.spotify.com/ch-de/download/linux/

Otherwise I agree.

Depending on your needs linux is not on par with Windows/MacOS yet, especially when you need commercial non dev/tech near software, unfortunately.

Whether that is a no go or not is an individual decision.

Still my preferred dev environment. Mature package management, best CLI. But those little things makes me want a Mac at work.
> Sketch

> Photoshop

Sounds like you're doing graphic design. Unless you're doing animation (in which case https://krita.org/en/ is much better than any Adobe thing I've used) you're definitely better off with a Mac.

> Linux is actually good now for desktop use.

Depends on what's required. I installed Linux (Ubuntu and Xubuntu) on an old Mac, and found it extremely hard to get file sharing (with SMB shares) done. I also gave up on installing a VNC server. For both these, I was looking for GUI based options. On the Mac (for longer than a decade), one just goes to Apple menu->System Preferences->Sharing and then turn on screen sharing, file sharing, etc., very easily.

I also had to configure certain other things using the shell. I personally didn't experience Linux being adequate for desktop use.

I've never had linux suspend/resume work properly. Ever.
I’m not going to say I don’t believe you, but I find comments like this one (which I see surprisingly often) funny because I’ve never not had it working perfectly, OOB, with no effort on my own, for as long as I can remember
The closest I've had to success was my old ThinkPad which would power off the screen when the lid closed but would not suspend the actual system.