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by ajbetteridge 3003 days ago
USA wants nuclear weapons because because it’s the USA, it wants them as a tool to poke the world with to get whatever it wants and it wants them to be able to perpetuate their unhanded regime.

Your statement can be made to fit any country that has a nuclear arsenal or wants one. USA and it's NATO lackies are bullies, pure and simple. USA wants to move it's embassy to Jerusalem, most countries don't agree and USA tries to bully them in the UN. Just because you're the biggest kid in school doesn't give you a justification for bullying smaller ones. But conversely, I'd lay money on North Korea wanting nuclear weapons just to piss off the USA, and see what the USA will respond with. It's pretty standard tactics for enemies to annoy each other and Trump and Kim are the worst kind of idiots in charge of a country because neither one is willing to back down. All this boils down to is a dick measuring contest between the USA and NK, nothing more.
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candiodari 3003 days ago
The problem with this argument is that you don't follow it to it's logical conclusion :

That NK should be destroyed.

For the good of the people living there. That would massively improve the lives of the people living there. Instead you're using this argument to both strengthen the NK government's position AND weaken opposition to it. This does not just make the lives of the NK people worse, but everyone's lives worse.

So truly sorry, but morally, the US and Europe both have the right to bully the NK government AND in fact it is actually a good thing that it does so. That is, if you see the goal as improving people's lives.

If your goal is to enforce some absolutist standard of behavior and damn the consequences, then ... well frankly, I'm sure a USA Taliban party probably exists. Why don't you go to their info evening ?

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dogma1138 3003 days ago
Do you actually have an argument about nuclear proliferation or are you simply taking a jab at the Americans? I'm not an American the Embassy issue isn't relevant to this topic at all nor does it invalidates the stance that we should prevent further nuclear proliferation.

Claiming that this is some dick waving contest between the US and NK is ridiculous, and comparing Trump to Kim is simply vile. N. Korea is objectively about as evil as a regime can get it killed millions of it's own people and will continue to do so for no benefit other than the perpetuation of a single family line.

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