[developer12]

>virtualenv is a community project (much like dep)

It doesn't stop there either I've seen python projects using nothing, virtualenv, venv, pip-tools, and pipenv.

I finally feel like pipenv is the true solution and it seems very new. All that said and Python is quite old relative to Go.

[Rotareti]

Python is slowly catching up. For example in JS/Elm/Rust you have a clean approach with:

* a central package registry

* a file to describe dependencies

* a command line tool to install, build and publish packages

In Python things are more fragmented. You have:

* a central package registry

* a file to store some of your dependencies (Pipfile)

* a command line tool to install packages (Pipenv)

* a file called setup.py in which you need to specify your dependencies again (in another format). You can execute this file to build/publish packages.

It think it would allow for a much nicer user experience if pipenv/pipfile would handle packaging/building/publishing as well..

[saturn_vk]

With all the bad press npm has had, I would not put it in the clean approach bag.