[imglorp]

A police raid is no laughing matter. People die all the time, so it's fortunate nobody got hurt.

Ordinarily for white collar crime, you'd expect a knock on the door and to be handed a summons, not full terrorism mode. You'd also expect your government to follow its due process, again not denying rights in full terrorism mode.

Oligarchy at work.

[jashmatthews]

   A police raid is no laughing matter. People die all the time, so it's fortunate nobody got hurt.

Not in New Zealand, they don't. Although Hollywood did put pressure on the NZ government to do a full tactical raid on this guys house.

[shawabawa3]

They broke into the guys house with loaded automatic weapons.

That's putting everyone involved in lethal danger, no matter what country it's in

[djsumdog]

And Many people who used Megaupload for legit data storage lost all of it after the US raids. Customer data still hasn't been recovered.

[djsumdog]

NZ cops do carry guns, just typically not on their person. They're locked in the boot of their vehicles. I have seen an NZ officer with their firearm on them and it's weird enough that everyone takes notice; like seeing litter in a mall in Singapore.

[jhayward]

How many full tactical anti-terror assaults, including 9 operators deploying from helicopters in assault landings, has NZ done? Besides the raid on Dotcom, that is.

[jashmatthews]

About 1000 per year, and on average they have to kill less than one person per year, despite 1 million guns for 4 million people.

They make heavy use of helicopters as there’s only one squad covering the entire South Island, and only two covering the North Island.

[jhayward]

Seriously? They're doing 3 anti-terror assaults every day of the year? Can you point me to some statistics? I had no idea NZ had such a terrorism problem.

[jashmatthews]

More like SWAT than anti-terror, but yes, our police execute 3+ tactical responses per day.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objecti...

[jhayward]

You are quoting stats on the Armed Offender squads, which are analogous to US SWAT teams.

Kim Dotcom was taken by the anti-terrorism Special Tactics Group, which is definitely not the Armed Offender Squad. They train with SAS, and are explicitly designed to take on high risk terrorist assaults. I'm asking how often they are deployed, and of course implicitly, whether serving warrants for copyright infringement is in their usual bailiwick.

[toomanybeersies]

That's not actually what this court case is about. This case was about the government refusing to give Kim Dotcom information they held about him.