[CydeWeys]

The article addresses your second point:

"Indeed, it's entirely possible to imagine a self-driving car system that always follows the letter of the law—and hence never does anything that would lead to legal finding of fault—but is nevertheless way more dangerous than the average human driver. Indeed, such a system might behave a lot like Uber's cars do today."

It doesn't matter if Uber makes cars that are technically not at fault, if they're mowing over pedestrians at a rate significantly higher than human drivers then they should never be allowed on public roads. People mess up occasionally. The solution is not an instant death sentence administered by algorithm.

[sureaboutthis]

That paragraph is opinion of the author of the article which is my complaint. And, again, your second paragraph is an issue I also have. That people are stating that Uber is a car manufacturer.

[CydeWeys]

I'm not sure I understand your objection. If Uber's cars are killing people at a much higher rate than human drivers, then that's a huge problem. They shouldn't be allowed on the roads at all, as they'd vastly increase traffic deaths if widely used. Whether or not someone is at fault in a given accident only matters to the insurance company; that person is still dead. What is your counter-argument? That it doesn't matter if many more people die with Uber self-driving cars on the road so long as everyone who dies made a mistake?

And whether Uber makes the entire car or not isn't germane to the discussion. They are responsible for the safety of said cars, which is what we're discussing here.

[sureaboutthis]

Your first paragraph, here, doesn't matter. He is stating opinion as if it were fact and what he said (not you now) isn't fact at all.

Your second paragraph emphasizes my point. You,too, are stating that Uber is a car manufacturer, in whole or in part. Does Uber manufacture any parts of this car at all? The impression the opinion piece gives is that Uber manufacturers cars.

[CydeWeys]

This is a pointless semantic argument. Uber did write and is responsible for the self-diving software involved, which is what's at issue here.