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And it's an even bigger problem with MEng/MS students. These are usually unfunded cash cow programs even at top universities. They accept fairly mediocre students from China and India and the class is usually 80% Chinese/Indian. A generalization, of course, but they have 0 intellectual curiosity. They are here to pay $50k-60k for 1 or 2 years, make sure they have as close to a 4.0 and then go get a tech job where they will make $150k/yr, and little to none of their skills from class would be needed.

And I can speak for Indians, but CS education in India aside from the IIT, the IIIT, BITS and some NITs is dismal. Cheating is rampant there, and they're much more well versed with the art because it's much harder to cheat and get away with it in India - you can't bring phones to your exam or freely go to the bathroom mid exam, for example.