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by YSFEJ4SWJUVU6 3005 days ago
I love how every time there's a discussion about car operating costs here, at least someone mentions oil changes as if they were a substantial part.

Many European cars with a long-life oil change program have oil changes as far as 18,000 miles apart. While I haven't averaged quite that high, for me oil changes still account for only about 2% of the fuel costs. With any new car the depreciation in value dominates most other individual costs anyway. (Also, a modestly sized car might only need one brake service if you use it for, say, 12 years, although this is more dependent on driving habits.)

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Electric cars retain the value of their battery packs, however. Look up the price of a used Model S, for instance.
And cars retain the value of their gas tanks. The difference is that gas tanks very seldom if ever 'wear out' and are $100-500 to replace. Battery packs are a wear item. Even a 100k warranty seems absurd to me. I have 2 cars with over 200k that need no major work. That steps hard on the narrative that eveltric cars need less maintance. If making cars electric means making them diaposible, Id rather petrol, and so would the environment.
I've only had two ICE cars for a significant length of time, and each time I had to replace failed fuel pumps, both times they were located in the gas tank. They certainly seem to wear out more than rarely to me.

For well-engineered EVs, batteries are definitely not a wear item. Especially in a large-battery (i.e. >200mile range) EV, the battery will easily last over 200,000 miles before significant degradation.

You'll be happy to know that actual battery lifetimes for properly-engineered long-range EVs are similar or better than a typical combustion engine (i.e. over a half a million miles). For instance: https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-battery-life-80-percent-capa... and https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1112465_tesla-model-s-d...

I owned one ICE car for a short time that had its timing chain break, destroying the (interference) engine after just over 100,000 miles.

In a properly engineered long-range (>200 mile) EV, the battery is less of a wear item than the engine in a typical ICE car.