[taneq]

Facebook seems more upfront about what they collect (everything) and why (because it's valuable).

Google persists in trying to justify its thirst for your data (we need it for maps traffic reports / google now suggestions / allo suggestions / to improve your maps experience / etc etc.)

The one point where Google wins out over Facebook (apparently) is that they're big enough to not need to expose your data to others. (Honestly I'd assumed Facebook was already at the point where they realised that the data they hold is worth more than a third party is likely to pay for it, which is the only reason the CA reveal was surprising to me...)

[lancesells]

I think Facebook gave app developers all of that data to grow their ecosystem at all costs. They've rescinded a lot of that data in recent years as they've achieved ubiquity. Unfortunately both Facebook and Google have achieved a mass surveillance system with their OAuth logins across the web and apps.

I agree that Google have a lot more data points and like Amazon are doing everything they can to invade physical space as well. LinkedNYC kiosks, Google Home and Toronto Waterfront projects are examples of making sure you're data is being collected 24/7.

[jjrh]

To be fair, the data google collects does end up making their products better.

> everyone who usually drives on this road is taking a detour, was there a accident or construction going on?

[taneq]

Often, yes, which is why it took so long for me to start balking at it. But these days, even though the data does also improve their products, it feels so much more like an excuse to grab the data. Try removing Google Play Services' access to location data, for instance - it will nag you about it in apps like gmail, and try to guilt you into turning it back on, even though gmail has no need whatsoever for your current location.