[OrganicMSG]

> You aren't being denied your freedoms on someone else's computer because you have no right to exercise them to begin with---it's not yours.

How about the freedom to refuse to use someone else's computer unless I can also see the source code?

[mikegerwitz]

That's orthogonal to the issue. Of course you have the freedom to refrain from use of any technology, unless you're somehow being mandated by law to use it.

[OrganicMSG]

Well, since we are already orthogonal, lets turn this the other way round. Would you support the idea that any software that you are mandated by law to use, should be required to be open source?

[deadbunny]

And you have the same right with any SaaS.

[kuschku]

And just like I won’t give you my source code unless you give me the source code of your laptop, I won’t give Google my source unless they give me the source code of all their products.

I have that very same right with any Service-as-a-Software-Substitute as well