[dominostars]

> And, of course, Manafort, who is dirty AF (right up there with the Podestas, the Clintons and the rest), but nothing relating to the Trump campaign.

Manafort served as Trump's Campaign manager from June 2016 to August 2016, but I guess that has nothing to do with Trump's Campaign.

Created an account to attempt to derail this conversation into being about Seth Rich and Hillary Clinton. lol.

[nopriorarrests]

But your opponent is correct. Manafort indictment is about laundering money he made in Ukraine before 2014. It really has nothing to do with him being a campaign manager in 2016. Moreover, I bet this activities as a campaign manager were examined under microscope, and nothing shady was found, otherwise he would be indicted.

Lets stay rational and stick to facts.

[croon]

> Lets stay rational and stick to facts.

Sure, let's do that:

1) George Papadopoulos pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI.

2) Michael Flynn pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI.

3) Paul Manafort was indicted on conspiracy, money laundering, false statements, and failure to disclose foreign assets, not just money laundering.

4) Rick Gates similar to Manafort, but has taken a plea deal.

5) 13 Russian nationals and 3 Russian companies indicted on conspiracy charges and identity theft.

6) Richard Pinedo pleaded guilty to an identity theft charge in connection with the Russian indictments, and is cooperating.

7) Alex van der Zwaan pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI about his connections to Rick Gates.

[throwaway5752]

And let's remember they are not 13 random Russians, either.

[paulddraper]

Perjury != collusion or treason.

[croon]

Both of those are specific legal definitions. Could you please elaborate on what your point is?

We can only speculate, but if you lie to the FBI, I would assume it's very likely that you have something to hide. Whether those plea deals led further down the rabbit hole to people who were guilty of further crimes we don't know. Maybe a few of them were on that list. Maybe some will get revealed later. I'm hopeful we will uncover the truth in time.

[VVyattPrentice]

>I bet...

>stick to facts

okay.

FACT: You bet Manafort isn't a traitor.

Bob Mueller would appear to have a different opinion.

https://www.justice.gov/file/1038391/download

Guess who my money is on.

[paulddraper]

The one without something to prove?

[VVyattPrentice]

Manafort was just a covfefe boy.