[eitland]

Have you considered this:

1. Cars kill a lot more people than guns. Every year. And while cars can be useful a lot of the driving is more ir less meaningless.

2. While guns might be used for evil they are also used for good: there is no doubt in my mind that our big neighbour to the east (I'm Norwegian) would have invaded a number of European countries during the 50-ies, 60-ies and 70-ies if those countries hadn't been prepared to defend themselves.

[dllthomas]

> Cars kill a lot more people than guns. Every year.

Globally, that may well still be the case. In the US, it recently ceased to be thanks to improvements in car safety.

[eitland]

Not to detract from what you say (it was interesting, I originally thought cars were much more dangerous in USA as well and I was very wrong) but from what I can see in 2017 cars were back on top.