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by freebear 3013 days ago
Look at the chart, the numbers are correct, everything grows (in large amounts). We are about to double the amount of fossil fueled cars in the next 10-15 years. It will not matter how much solar we install if we keep increasing our fossil burning (as we will). In fact, we use other sources of energy than oil to extract and refine the oil.

We are terribly addicted to oil. One could say we sold our mother (Earth) for a shot of hubris. It took us to the Moon and the stars. It gives and it takes lives, one could think we are dealing with the Devil.

For each day we do not decrease our fossil fuel use nothing will make a difference, the fact is that the Earth is becoming a worse place for each of those days. Our culture is not only addicted to oil, there is a bigger picture. Our culture is dependent on growth, hence the addiction to energy, all kinds of energy. We will go on this way, no matter what, for as long as we can.

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"the fact is that the Earth is becoming a worse place for each of those days

There is absolutely no evidence of this.

The average person today, whether in the First World or the Third, lives a life that is better than almost every respect than a comparable person a hundred years ago.

At the same time, environmental quality in the First World has improved dramatically.

"At the same time, environmental quality in the First World has improved dramatically."

I do not know where to begin, but i am facing the tongue of our mother culture. I am facing not only your arguments, i am facing an operating system. It is high time we clean our disks.

To mention a few, we now get microplastics from our tap water [1], and bottled water [2]. Reports of substantial insects loss from all over the world [3][4].

Study shows that the oceans will be dead if we continue as we do [5]. Life loses 150-200 species a day, we are currently living in the Sixth mass extinction [6], i was about to write "the planet loses", but the planet simply does care, only life do. Our way of farming is killing the soils [7], it is fake, all fake. We kill the soils and we depend on a limited supply of chemical fertilizer. People have the idea that the soils are made for this, one of the greatest lies.

How can you say that the life is better when were at 407 PPM of CO2 and counting, and we have no clue about what is about to happen. The limits in the glacial/interglacial system we've been in for the past million years are 180-280 PPM.

I could go on an on but to put it simply. All the problems we've solved are problems of our culture, that said, we have not solved any other problem and we have not solved all our problems. Our problem is that we can't stop our growth. Event if we stopped the population growth all the other charts would point straight up!

Why did 20,000 scientists give a dire warning in their 'letter to humanity'? [8] It is us, we keeps this going, we all need more stuff, more energy to take us to new highs of 'humanity'.

Far better life, yes, we work and we feed and we Netflix™. Far better than what? There was a life before domestication by, for and in our culture. We've been Homo for three million years and we've been Homo Sapiens Sapiens for three hundred thousand. Being born today is a roulette spin, there is no guarantees that your genes will match this system. Our current culture is so far off from what our bodies, minds and that small process which we call 'me' are made for.

[1] https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/sep/06/plastic-... [2] http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-43388870 [3] https://www.news-leader.com/story/sports/outdoors/2017/08/30... [4] https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/04/world/europe/krefeld-germ... [5] https://www.theinertia.com/environment/the-oceans-could-be-d... [6] https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2010/aug/16/nature-e... [7] https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/only-60-years-of-... [8] http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/letter-to-humanity-...

> To mention a few, we now get microplastics from our tap water

There is no evidence that "microplastics" (which are just the latest entry in a long, long, history of things that are going to KILL US NOW) pose any health risks.

> How can you say that the life is better when were at 407 PPM of CO2 and counting

There is no evidence that current CO2 levels are harmful to animal life, and plenty of evidence that higher CO2 levels are beneficial to plant life.

> Our way of farming is killing the soils

Nonsense.

https://plantsciences.missouri.edu/grains/corn/graphs/USA-co...

> There was a life before domestication by, for and in our culture.

Yes. It was nasty, brutish, and short.