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by joering2 3019 days ago
Well, my server runs for 19 years now without a major secuirty breach... so do I know.

But to answer OP: you cannot ever delete gmail message. Even spam is kept forever to comply with LE, since some of your real messages could by accodent go to junk. With Proton once I delete a message, its gone forever since it was part of my internal encrypted blob of messages. once I logged off deleted message is gone.

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>"Well, my server runs for 19 years now without a major secuirty breach... so do I know"

Do you really believe Gmail and your personal server possess the same value as targets?

>"you cannot ever delete gmail message. Even spam is kept forever to comply with LE"

Do you have a citation for this?

> Do you really believe Gmail and your personal server possess the same value as targets?

That's also the point. :) Why put your data into a service that has higher chance of being targetted (and you may never know if it was). Also if you're in control of the device, you'll be the one receiving the subpoena/search warrant (or a swat team), so you'll know if it was targetted.