[rvo]

Obama is also I think one of very few presidents who explicitly targeted and killed American natural born citizen. Not accidentally, but actually targeted. Didn't even bother hiding it.

But I agree with the original point, GOP did start this mess on the lie of weapons of mass destruction.

[shams93]

Well you go back to 911 itself and the government involvement with Osama Bin Laden going back to the 1980s, go back to the CIA making my childhood incredibly dangerous by dumping incredible amounts of guns and drugs into cities such as Los Angeles. When do the American people get to tell the CIA "you're fired!"

[rvo]

Those were massive fups.

That is very different from listing the name of an American on a "kill list" and ordering a drone strike. Judge, jury and executioner.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anwar_al-Awlaki

[davvolun]

Maybe I'm just playing devil's advocate, but is what Obama did significantly different from Union soldiers under Lincoln's orders during the Civil War? The form of warfare has changed dramatically, but wouldn't that be something of a parallel?

P.S. I don't want to sound like an apologist regarding Obama's actions here. My personal feelings are that he was largely better than Bush, but not without fault.

[rvo]

No it's not different. I just said that not many presidents have targeted and killed their own citizens. Lincoln was probably one of them. Perhaps one could argue Obama was in a civil war with Americans of the Muslim faith / extremists.

One could argue it was justified. I would personally feel horrible if it was justified that way. But, hey, it's not my country.