[LoSboccacc]

> People have gotten along without the present distorted system of mass incarceration

while the incarceration system has limits when it comes to rehabilitation, this part of the post is extremely mistaken.

just because it was slavery and banishment aren't equivalent to incarceration doesn't mean there was no system of punishment - for as far as myth can track our oral history crime and punishment was always present in some form or another as a value and a condition for the existence of social groups larger than tribes

crime and punishment was codified as social values in laws, tradition and religion precisely because not having them caused more strife than having them, a point that is driven over and over again with the stigma the same myth gives to personal vendetta as opposed to systematic punishment.