> Well, that might be true for people living in the US but, and I might be going out on a limb here, it might not be so true for others.
And for a comment referencing Florida, is it charitable to apply something for continents to your stated interpretation? Principle of charity says not.
Specifically who refers to America/Americans in English as meaning "People who live on the continents in North and South America"? Lets hear names not an allusion to "others".
I'm only aware of a rather vocal minority of South American students recently getting angry at the term America being attributed to citizens of the USA. But its really no different from my aforementioned Mexico example in Spanish. Their category error is trying to redefine America from its shorteneed form for USA, to some super continent association of "America". But it goes against a lot of existing usage in not only English, but other languages. [1]
I respect that you have a position here, but frankly its a silly way to try to redefine the word America as its been spoken in English for a long time to refer to a super continent of both North and South America.
Example Portuguese, America refers to the USA, and to both Continents, aka like in English have to figure out the context:
http://www.wordreference.com/enpt/america
German, closer to French/English here but separate in that they tend to refer to the "americas" as north middle and south america, which is in many ways more appropo:
https://dict.leo.org/englisch-deutsch/america
Japanese, i'm not as qualified with my 3 months of learning japanese to comment on this but given the Kanji in use they're already separated:
https://jisho.org/search/america
Etc...
Also are you saying that all of the societies and engineering societies such as The American Society of Engineers should be required to change their name as they don't allow people from Canada, Central America, and South America to join? At a certain point I just can't find this position on the word America to make sense. Its just a weird thing to die by the sword on.
I refer to USA as that and its people as USAmerican or USian variously. America is a continent and whilst a good deal of North America is USA plenty isn't.
USA is a terrible name, it could equally apply to any country, Canada say, in the American continent formed from multiple states.
It is wrong to call societies only for USAmericans "The American ...". The whole thing supports the idea that the only Americans worth bothering with are USian, it's extremely pompous and self-agrandising.
You should get a proper name.
Perhaps if things work out in Korea they'll call themselves the United States of Asia ...
Re Mexico, there's no continent called Mexico, no ambiguity or appearance of narcissism attaches to not using the full title. It's not at all equivalent.
> I refer to USA as that and its people as USAmerican or USian variously. America is a continent and whilst a good deal of North America is USA plenty isn't.
America is not a continent, its two continental plates roughly separted at Panama via the Carribbean plate. Can you point me to a recording of someone using this terminology in real life? USAamerican is pronounced as ooh sa American or what? I can't see this catching on. Or oooh ess ian either. I doubt the Canadians want to get lumped in as Americans even under this nouveau definition.
> USA is a terrible name, it could equally apply to any country, Canada say, in the American continent formed from multiple states.
But it isn't that at all, which segues into:
> Re Mexico, there's no continent called Mexico, no ambiguity or appearance of narcissism attaches to not using the full title. It's not at all equivalent.
I was using that as a parallel in that we don't call mexico by its republic name.
Words can have multiple disparate meanings, America tends to have indicated a shortening of The United States of America. Do you believe citizens of this country can't name themselves?
You also conveniently omitted what english speaking region you are from so I can't follow up on how wide spread your version of things is/n't.
"USAmerican" - like U.S.A but with American replacing the A. Variations expected.
>America tends to have indicated a shortening of The United States of America //
To people who assume that it's the only place in America that anyone would talk about.
>Do you believe citizens of this country can't name themselves? //
How many current citizens chose that name; I'll go with none. If you asked the question "what should we name our union of states, one of several unions of states in America" I'd hope most intelligent people would think something other than USA was best.
I'm from the UK (which has a lot of stupid naming too, but that doesn't make USA a sensible name, bad naming elsewhere doesn't make this naming better). But for the purposes of this conversation that probably just counts as "not America" by which will be meant "not USA". /s
Yes, I was being silly. But only because if you bundle South America and North America and then go on to call the south of that super-continent "Florida", well, a globalist such as myself has to object.
> Yes, I was being silly. But only because if you bundle South America and North America and then go on to call the south of that super-continent "Florida", well, a globalist such as myself has to object.
Fair enough, but it read more as being willfully obtuse if anything.
And for a comment referencing Florida, is it charitable to apply something for continents to your stated interpretation? Principle of charity says not.
Specifically who refers to America/Americans in English as meaning "People who live on the continents in North and South America"? Lets hear names not an allusion to "others".
I'm only aware of a rather vocal minority of South American students recently getting angry at the term America being attributed to citizens of the USA. But its really no different from my aforementioned Mexico example in Spanish. Their category error is trying to redefine America from its shorteneed form for USA, to some super continent association of "America". But it goes against a lot of existing usage in not only English, but other languages. [1]
I respect that you have a position here, but frankly its a silly way to try to redefine the word America as its been spoken in English for a long time to refer to a super continent of both North and South America.
Example Portuguese, America refers to the USA, and to both Continents, aka like in English have to figure out the context: http://www.wordreference.com/enpt/america
French, pretty much the same, only the continent is generally called out separately as continent américain: http://www.wordreference.com/enfr/america
German, closer to French/English here but separate in that they tend to refer to the "americas" as north middle and south america, which is in many ways more appropo: https://dict.leo.org/englisch-deutsch/america
Japanese, i'm not as qualified with my 3 months of learning japanese to comment on this but given the Kanji in use they're already separated: https://jisho.org/search/america
Etc...
Also are you saying that all of the societies and engineering societies such as The American Society of Engineers should be required to change their name as they don't allow people from Canada, Central America, and South America to join? At a certain point I just can't find this position on the word America to make sense. Its just a weird thing to die by the sword on.