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by gizmo 3030 days ago
His later clarification is a clear deflection. He laments women have the right to vote and he never retracted that statement.
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I'd argue that's an assumption.

To your second point, he never retracted his original statement because he never said woman shouldn't vote. What statement would you like him to retract? For your sake he still clarified his beliefs "I don’t think any class of people should be disenfranchised".

You edited your post to remove the first sentence of Thiel's response: "It would be absurd to suggest that women’s votes will be taken away". That's a deflection, because it's a truism and doesn't address the criticism. Of course women's right to vote won't be taken away, but Thiel still believes that women's voting rights are not compatible with a free (meaning libertarian) society.
I deleted it for that reason. Its a truism and does not represent his belief.

Your last sentence may be a truism as well. It's a belief about the way things are, not the way things should be.

He laments women have the right to vote and he never retracted that statement.

Sorry, but the interpretation that Mr. Thiel just has no faith in democracy improving things further seems much more reasonable. Given the entire corpus, do you think Peter Thiel would assert that life would improve if large swathes of the populace were disenfranchised? Please provide some quotes.

> do you think Peter Thiel would assert that life would improve if large swathes of the populace were disenfranchised

Yes! He literally says so:

Thiel: I no longer believe that freedom [meaning capitalism] and democracy are compatible.

Thiel wants to save capitalism, and therefore rejects democracy because in his view you can't have both. That means he wants to disenfranchise everybody except the monied.

Thiel wants to save capitalism, and therefore rejects democracy because in his view you can't have both. That means he wants to disenfranchise everybody except the monied

I think his view is a bit more nuanced than that. I think that he'd say that the monied are the only ones really enfranchised now, and that public opinion is currently manipulated by those actors through their influence over the media. In such conditions, we'd expect any democracy to be dysfunctional.