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by logicallee 3033 days ago
>since they [Coinbase] are not a neutral player

Why do you say this? (The part I added in bracket part is unambiguous in your sentence.)

Coinbase doesn't have its own coin, for example. (That is the main thing that I would think would make someone "not neutral".)

Can you explain your thinking, or tell me what facts I'm missing?

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The people choosing which coins to include and how to weight them have tremendous power. They, and their buddies, will be tempted to (a) re-constitute the index to favour assets they own or (b) buy and sell ahead of re-constitution using insider information. “Painting the tape” is a problem with proper indices; here, someone on the GDAX side could conceivably just mess with the records.
> someone on the GDAX side could conceivably just mess with the records.

... On the blockchain?

I suppose you mean the pointers to which users controls what, in the internal db? Ie: straight up fraud. I'm not convinced having access to a large order lists doesn't already open the door to insider trading?

> ... On the blockchain?

The index is market capitalization weighted. "The market capitalization of each constituent asset is calculated as the price of the asset multiplied by the supply of the asset" [1], where the "price for each constituent asset is the last trade price on the GDAX USD order book" (2.6).

The market capitalization, and thus weighting schema, is an entirely internal product of Coinbase's data.

> I'm not convinced having access to a large order lists doesn't already open the door to insider trading?

Currently, an insider could (a) give their orders better execution than the market or (b) foment a spike/crash by "painting the tape". This is risky and leaves a paper trail.

"The Coinbase Index Committee consists of one member representing Coinbase, and two unaffiliated independent members who have experience in index creation and oversight" (7.4). Those people are powerful. They can take economically-significant actions based on their subjective determinations. Convincing one of them to (a) tell you how they're rebalancing or what assets they're adding/removing when or (b) rebalance in a way that helps your portfolio can be done entirely over a glass of beer. Still risky and illegal. But less detectable than before.

This structure of incentives (small group of subjective decision makers operating on the basis of internal data) historically fails. (See the Libor scandals [2], where we only nailed those involved because they coördinated over instant messages.) Even if the first batch of three are honest, all it takes is one bad apple to spoil the bunch.

[1] https://am.coinbase.com/documents/cbi-methodology.pdf § 2.4

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libor_scandal

Not the person you're replying to, but perhaps the choice to add BCH to Coinbase and GDAX due to perceived personal connections between the founder and Ver? Out of all the coins, they've chosen BTC, ETH, LTC and now BCH (which crashed viciously not just right after the lockup period but immediately in the week following).