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by pabloski 3033 days ago
You talk about Cambodia and Pol Pot. Do you want to talk about Guantanamo too? Or the secret CIA prisons in Poland, Romania and the Czech republic?

Come on, the USA is the least liberal and democratic ( in the true sense of the word ) country in the world. It is a plutocracy dressed as a democracy, where he people vote for the puppet du jour and the deep state runs the show under each and every administration.

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> You talk about Cambodia and Pol Pot. Do you want to talk about Guantanamo too? Or the secret CIA prisons in Poland, Romania and the Czech republic?

This is literally nothing compared to what Pol Pot did. Pol pot killed millions on Cambodians (look https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khmer_Rouge#Crimes_against_hum...) just on ridiculous basis like "having a minimum education", and being of another ethnicity. The country is now in ruin after decades of his regime. A poor example to argue about.

> the USA is the least liberal and democratic ( in the true sense of the word ) country in the world

You cannot really believe this. Such ridiculous hyperbole does your argument no favours. North Korea? More liberal than the USA? Please.

Ever read the 13th amendment of the US constitution? Guess what, slavery is still legal and practiced in the US. Using the so called "war on drugs" i.e. poor black people, so that you can imprison them and use them as slaves.

What a land of freedom.

Not that I agree with that, but drugs are illegal everywhere in the world and prisoners can be forced to work in many countries. In your opinion, that makes the US the least liberal and democratic country in the world?

How do you define liberal and democratic? Personally, I would include things like freedom of speech, the right to love who you will, and universal sufferage.

There are many countries that don't respect these freedoms.

They are obviously talking about the implementation of our prison system and not just drugs being illegal.

I mean, it is really quite clear. I don't think I agree with how they are characterizing it, it's just that the intended meaning is easy to see.

And I'm asking if they believe that one criteria weighs more heavily than all the others.

That's putting aside the question of whether the US is really the worst prison system in the world, ie, granting that point for the sake of argument, though I strongly disagree with it. If I had to go to prison somewhere, the US would rank below a few but above most countries.

Whataboutism is the mightiest endorsement of a justice system.

Again, they are clearly talking about forced labor in the prison system, you can't meaningfully analyze the other parts of their comment separately from that.

Why even mention Guantanamo. Pol Pot's popularity and rise was enabled by the USA's absolutely monstrous and indefensible atrocities committed against Cambodia (and Laos) during the "Vietnam" War.

After Pol Pot's genocide was stopped (by the Bad Guys, Soviet-backed Vietnam), the US (and China - its commie BFF since throwing Taiwan under the bus) supported the Khmer Rouge as the Cambodian representative in the UN until the 1990s.

You know, like having the Nazi Party represent Israel or Poland until the 1960s.

The US armed, funded and kept alive the Khmer Rouge in the 1980s, and Reagan's British poodle Margaret Thatcher even sent the SAS to train them.

"ASEAN wanted elections [in Cambodia] but the U.S. supported the return of [Pol Pot's] genocidal regime." - Singapore diplomat Bilahari Kausikan

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_United_States_s...

It's interesting that you feel the need to shift away the attention form socialist dictators with a switch to the US (where btw you can even elect a judge or Sheriff). I've seen you doing that on the hacks by Russia before. So what is the world you thing you are accomplishing by drawing this?

Would you prefer living in a quasi dictatorship that watches over what you write on the internet because you have nothing to fear since you are so "compatible" with their views?

How do a world in a tight ideological bondage, aiming for ideals from the last century prosper in your eyes? Or is this bound to this "I don't care what happens when I die" view that comes with climate change denial for example? Do you believe in climate change (the religious tone here is intentional)?

Do you feel that the world became "complicated" and you having a hard time to follow certain topics?