[itissid]

I think there are two broad camps of thinking processes, one that fits people into stereotypes and does system 1 type of thinking. This camp believes in built in traits always lead to certain biases. They perpetuate those biases as well. While its true that exposure in young adulthood to certain things leads to bias to a certain extent, the main driver is YOU, your camp, which created those biases. Remember all those women that dropped out of the Software workforce in the 70's? Someone MADE those conditions happen.

The lack of understanding that those biases can be reversed is what needs to be corrected. This is the other camp, the camp that understands this and proactively fixes things, that needs to be made bigger.

I think, such things start very young. They starts in pre-schools where girls are given a doll and boys are given the lego blocks or children are not sensitized to color of the skin issues.

[hyperdunc]

> They starts in pre-schools where girls are given a doll and boys are given the lego blocks

It starts before then. Babies only a few days old show a preference for Duplo or dolls depending on their biological sex.

[kaybe]

Do you have a study? I can hardly imagine that given that babies can't even focus their eyes at that age.

[bklaasen]

It's been shown that when a baby grips the finger of an adult, the adult tugs the baby's arm if they think the baby is male and hold their hand static if they think the baby is female.

I can't find the paper, though.

[gowld]

> Remember all those women that dropped out of the Software workforce in the 70's?

What's this?

[toyg]

A lot of the early CS-related workforce was actually made of women, because dealing with mainframes was originally seen as an extension of typing and shorthand (secretarial work traditionally reserved to women) with some math on top. Sometime around the early '70s / early '80s, the field morphed into the male-dominated world we see today.

This has been discussed on HN in the past, usually in threads about female CS pioneers working at NASA and so on. I believe the consensus is that there wasn't a single individual cause for the change, but rather a number of conditions changed around the same time, discouraging women from CS-related jobs.

[Trundle]

The field morphing in to being male dominated and the existing women dropping out are two different things. Sure, what you're saying has been discussed plenty on HN. As far as I know the other posters statement hasn't.

[bklaasen]

See Nathan Ensmenger's "The Computer Boys Take Over" and Marie Hicks' "Programmed Inequality".

https://youtu.be/4vCDHJ4-D80 https://youtu.be/WTLJ7saIV3o